“That old “babies are born atheists” is just another assertion trick they use. It’s ridiculous because it’s opinion, not provable.”
Yup, Sorensen is back to making his frankly insane argument for children being born with a belief in gods. He made an arse of himself earlier in the year with this, but he’s back saying it’s not ‘provable’….well, how about this – what god do Hindu babies believe in Bob? What about Muslim children, which god do they believe in? How about the offspring of Buddhists? Or Catholics? Or even atheists?
You see, Sorensen’s ‘argument’ is so pathetic that even thinking about it for a few seconds can fully undermine it.
Here’s a clear statement for you, Bob, babies are born without any knowledge of the human construct of gods, just like every other living thing. To claim otherwise shows you to be a faithhead of such insane proportions that you no doubt think that inanimate objects also worship your god.
If I had a pound coin for every time Joe has had the origins of the BC/AD dating method explained to him I would have literally hundreds of pounds…I’d be able to buy myself something really nice. Joe has had this explained to him over and over and over and over again, yet he never ever seems to learn.
The man is a moron.
Over the last 6 or 7 months I’ve watched Bob Sorensen interact with dozens of non-believers on blogs and Twitter, and every time he follows the exact same pattern. I’m calling it ‘The Sorensen Cycle’, and it goes a little like this –
He’s used this technique so many times I’ve lost count.
It would appear so. But what of his BZ1461 account?
…more of the same it would seem.
Chris Taylor, of Conroe, Texas, you are a prize fuckwit.
2. There is no Resurrection of Jesus in the Bible.
That’s right. There is absolutely no resurrection narrative found anywhere in the four canonical gospels. Jesus’ body is placed in the tomb, and three days later the rock has been rolled back and the tomb is simply empty. Nowhere in the New Testament is there a description of Jesus coming back to life. Sorry to disappoint you, but all of the “He is Risen” stickers are just wrong. “He has Disappeared” would be more accurate.
Now the non-canonical Gospel of Peter (this gospel was at one time part of the Christian Bible), recovered in Egypt by the French archaeologist Urbain Bouriant in 1886, does describe the resurrection of Jesus. In this account, Jesus is crucified by Herod Antipas rather than Pontius Pilate, and when Jesus does come back to life, he is a massive giant who is accompanied by a walking-talking cross. Yes, that’s right. The cross Jesus was crucified on walks out of the tomb and can talk. Could you imagine all the little kids playing with little talking cross-dolls if the Gospel of Peter had been left in the Bible?
That crock of easily debunked shit is from Atheist Connect dot Org, and is part of a risible article claiming to expose the top ten things that Christians don’t know about the Bible. It’s bad enough that faithheads regularly make ludicrously dickish blog posts about just how little they understand about evolution, we don’t need atheists doing the same.
Bad show, Atheist Connect, very bad show.
It was a ‘mistake’ when Stormy howled with rage and claimed he’d never mentioned ‘logical fallacies’ (his favourite subject) on here….
I present the following posts from Sorensen in response to that point….
…that’s a question I’m regularly asked, and today is no different –
MzMillerizMGgal, as well as having an almost Cthulhu-esque Twitter name, pretty much sums up the problem – Right Wing Christians don’t want non-believers (or followers of other religions) to have any voice at all (as evidenced by the rest of MzMillerizMGgal’s time line) whilst relentlessly pushing their religiously informed agenda on the public at large.
These people seek the criminalisation of abortion and homosexual marriage, and would rejoice if their country became a Christian Theocracy. They want anyone who doesn’t agree with them to simply shut up and go away, and they have no interest whatsoever in engaging in discussing the real issues (see the way Bob Sorensen refused to discuss evolution with my Fundamentally Flawed co-host Jim Gardner over at howgoodisthat.wordpress.com, despite Jim’s calm and polite offer of a civil discussion, for evidence)
This is why a number of us push back, this is why there are pro-atheism signs going on buses around the world, this is why non-believers are finally standing up and saying ‘enough’.
So what can the Christians (and other religious believers – don’t forget, they’re all as wrong as each other!) do to stop us ‘attacking’ them? Simple – stop preaching, and stop trying to force your beliefs into law. Do that and you’ll find that atheists leave you alone.
(first published on Tuesday, 18 January 2011, republished in light of Joe’s continuing BS about the BC/AD dating system)
Joe Cienkowski, Young Earth Creationist, and serial fact denier, has a small number of regular points that he repeats over and over and over on his Twitter feed. Time and time again people with a far better understanding of geology, theology, biology, astronomy, chemistry, and any other -ry you can name, point out that he’s wrong, that he’s singularly failed to understand a basic point about, say, population growth, or evolution, or history.
Does Joe ever learn from this? Does he absorb a single word of knowledge, and adjust his world view accordingly? Does he fuck. Joe is blinded by his monomaniacal ‘faith’ that he’s the ‘most christian’ believer on Earth, the religion’s ‘chief apologist’, and is unwilling to admit that, in most areas, he hasn’t got a clue.
Let’s look, in no particular order, at Joe’s commonly trotted out pearls of wisdom….
I’ve probably forgotten a few, but by now you’ll be feeling your brain clogging up with the sheer stupidity of the man.
I think people get so frustrated with Joe Cienkowski because he’s so wilfully ignorant, and refuses to learn from those who know better….it doesn’t help that he’s so massively arrogant and quick to scoff at those he disagrees with.
If I’ve missed anything out, feel free to add it in the comments