The Audio of My Call to Matt Slick
Here it is.
I talk at a right pace throughout, and repeatedly Matt does his typical ‘attempt to put words into your mouth’ thing, and towards the end I got a bit frustrated with his repeated appeals to the Bible as evidence. My wife has also pointed out that Matt has obviously got a lot of his ‘facts’ learned by rote, whilst I’m clearly thinking on my feet as the discussion goes on.
However, his definition of evolution (at 25:40 on my edited-to-remove-the-first-caller recording) is absolutely wrong – either he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or he’s knowingly being dishonest to mislead his listeners. This is what he says –
“Microevolution’s a reduction of the gene pool and allele frequency that goes on through natural selection and predation”
Wikipedia defines microevolution like this –
“Microevolution is the occurrence of small-scale changes in allele frequencies in a population, over a few generations, also known as “change below the species level”. These changes are due to four different processes: mutation, selection (natural and artificial), gene flow and genetic drift.” (source, with lots of other pages defining microevolution)
Matt has clearly altered his definition to remove ‘small scale changes’ and add in ‘reduction’. Perhaps he’s been confused by the fact that the study of microevolution is reductionist, breaking complex things down to smaller parts, perhaps he thinks ‘reductionist’ means that the gene pool and allele frequency is ‘reduced’?
Whatever, his definition is flat out wrong.
Despite my obvious frustration with Matt being very evident towards the end, I was glad to hear that I never once, despite what some theists are claiming, threatened to sue him, and I didn’t proclaim that ‘victory is mine’ in any way at all. I DID say that I was expecting more of a challenge, and I was.
Anyway, I did it, I called up someone Stormbringer thought I’d never call. Now let’s see if HE can rise to the challenge of calling the Atheist Experience.