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Creationists: Still Lying After All These Years.

I’d not had a look at the Joe Cienkowski Fantasy Feed for a while, so was most amused to read the above today.  Joe is one of those creationists who’s very keen on repeating various hoaxes such as Piltdown Man as a way of discrediting the whole Theory of Evolution. He, and others like him, seem to think that all the evidence, all the overwhelming, factual, evidence is fraudulent, and that lying scientists will stop at nothing to push their ‘atheist agenda’.

So I got to thinking, is there a list of hoaxes committed by creationists? And if not, why not? Turns out there’s rather a lot of faked ‘evidence’ for creationism (the EVC forum threw a lot of these up)…

I’m sure there are a lot more, but this is quite a list already, easily outnumbering the frauds on the other side of the argument. It seems that Creationists are either a rather dishonest bunch, or attract the dishonest (maybe because of the way Creationists are easily lead?). Either way, next time a Creationist claims that accepters of Evolution make stuff up, point them at this list.

And if you come across any that I’ve missed, please comment and I’ll add them.

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3 thoughts on “Creationists: Still Lying After All These Years.

  1. I found this one the other day :)!5084491/the-alternate-history-theme-park-where-dinosaurs-fought-in-the-civil-war

  2. practically everything Kent Hovind as ever uttered, not to mention Ken Ham ( who incidentally was so ridiculed in Australia he left for the USA where he found VERY fertile ground )

  3. You'd be surprised to know that I never fell for the "recant" thing. Despite your presuppositions and seething hatred, not all Christians are gullible. "Answers in Genesis" has an article (linked by, which concludes: "Given the weight of evidence, it must be concluded that Lady Hope’s story is unsupportable, even if she did actually visit Darwin. He never became a Christian, and he never renounced evolution. As much as we would like to believe that he died with a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, it is much more likely that he didn’t. It is unfortunate that the story continues to be promoted by many sincere people who use this in an effort to discredit evolution when many other great arguments exist, including the greatest: the Bible."Christian Answers: "It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people."Creation Truth Foundation says that there is no validity to the story. concludes, "As mentioned above, James Moore found what other researchers have found. The story of Darwin's conversion and renunciation of evolution is either an invention or unwarranted embroidery on the original story."So, do you grab every e-mail that is sent your way that "Bill Gates must share his fortune if you forward this e-mail" nonsense that comes your way and call Bill Gates a liar because of what was done to his name? What else did Joe say? Does he build a case, or is that a simple comment? I am no fan of Joe, but you have the integrity of a weasel. Your attempts to discredit Christians because someone grabs onto a sensational rumour is disingenuous at best, but you are not interested in truth. You have demonstrated that clearly, many times. No, your purpose is strictly to mock and ridicule.Thanks for giving me an idea for a new article, Poindexter.

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